Alarm 78 fires when the servo drive loses encoder feedback signal or detects corrupted position data from the axis encoder. The NGC control system requires continuous encoder pulses for closed-loop positioning, and any interruption in the A/B quadrature signals or loss of the index pulse triggers this critical servo fault.
HaasServo/AxisIntermediate30-75 minutes
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HAAS Alarm 78 - Axis Encoder Error Signal Loss
Axis encoder error or signal loss
This alarm occurs when the servo amplifier detects loss of encoder feedback signals or inconsistent position data from the rotary encoder mounted on the axis servo motor. The servo amp continuously monitors the A, B, and Z channel quadrature signals from the encoder and compares commanded position against actual position reported by encoder. Signal loss, noise, or data corruption triggers this fault to prevent uncontrolled axis motion and potential crash conditions.
Root Cause Summary
Alarm 78 fires when the servo drive loses encoder feedback signal or detects corrupted position data from the axis encoder. The NGC control system requires continuous encoder pulses for closed-loop positioning, and any interruption in the A/B quadrature signals or loss of the index pulse triggers this critical servo fault.
Safety
Do not attempt to operate machine in automatic mode with encoder alarm active; crash hazard
Power cycle machine to reset encoder circuits before repeated diagnostic attempts
Wear safety glasses when inspecting encoder mechanical components
Causes and Fixes
1
Check encoder cable connections
Power down machine and inspect encoder cable connections at both the servo motor and drive. Look for loose, corroded, or damaged pins on the encoder connector.
Always power down before disconnecting encoder cables to prevent drive damage
2
Inspect encoder cable routing
Check encoder cable for pinching, cuts, or damage along the cable track. Ensure proper separation from power cables and spindle motor cables to prevent EMI interference.
Encoder cables should maintain at least 6 inches separation from high-current power cables
3
Test cable continuity
Using a multimeter, check continuity on all encoder signal wires (typically 8-wire: A+, A-, B+, B-, Z+, Z-, +5V, GND) with motor disconnected.
Resistance between differential pairs should be consistent and typically 120 ohms
4
Replace encoder cable if damaged
If continuity test fails or physical damage is found, replace the encoder cable with Haas OEM part. Ensure proper routing and strain relief installation.
1
Check encoder power supply
Measure +5VDC at encoder connector pins with machine powered on. Voltage should be 4.75-5.25VDC. Low voltage indicates power supply or cable issues.
Use proper ESD precautions when measuring at encoder connections
2
Inspect encoder signals with oscilloscope
Connect oscilloscope to A+ and A- encoder signals while manually rotating axis. Look for clean square wave signals with proper 90-degree phase relationship.
Healthy encoder signals should show consistent amplitude and no dropouts during rotation
3
Check encoder mechanical condition
Remove motor cover and inspect encoder disc for cracks, contamination, or damage. Check encoder bearing for smooth rotation without binding or roughness.
4
Replace servo motor encoder
If encoder signals are corrupted or mechanical damage is found, replace the encoder assembly or entire servo motor per Haas service procedures.
1
Verify encoder signals at drive input
Measure encoder signals at the servo drive input connector to confirm signals are reaching the drive. Compare with signals at motor encoder output.
Signal amplitude should be consistent between motor output and drive input
2
Check drive encoder parameters
Access servo drive parameters through NGC diagnostics and verify encoder resolution settings match motor specifications (typically 1,000,000 or 2,500,000 counts/rev).
3
Perform drive encoder diagnostics
Use NGC diagnostic screens to monitor real-time encoder position and velocity feedback. Look for erratic readings or dropouts during manual axis movement.
4
Replace servo drive
If encoder signals are good at drive input but drive reports encoder fault, replace the servo drive assembly with proper Haas part number for the specific axis.
1
Check for interference sources
Identify potential EMI sources near the machine such as welders, large motors, or VFDs. Note if alarm occurs when specific equipment operates.
Alarm 78 from EMI typically occurs intermittently during specific operations
2
Verify encoder cable shielding
Ensure encoder cable shield is properly grounded at the servo drive end only. Check for damaged or missing shield connections that allow EMI pickup.
3
Improve cable routing
Reroute encoder cables away from power cables, spindle motor cables, and other high-current conductors. Use additional shielding or conduit if necessary.
4
Install EMI filters if needed
If interference cannot be eliminated through routing, install appropriate EMI filters on interfering equipment or improve facility grounding system.
1
Inspect for contamination
Check encoder area for coolant leaks, chip accumulation, or other contamination that could affect encoder operation. Look for signs of moisture ingress.
Clean encoder components only with appropriate solvents - avoid harsh chemicals
2
Check axis mechanical condition
Manually move axis through full travel range checking for binding, roughness, or mechanical resistance that could affect encoder reading.
3
Clean encoder assembly
Carefully clean encoder disc and sensor head using appropriate cleaning materials. Ensure no residue remains that could affect optical or magnetic sensing.
4
Address contamination source
Repair coolant leaks, improve chip evacuation, or install additional sealing to prevent future contamination of encoder components.
DIY Feasiblemedium confidence
Call a technician if:
·Servo drive replacement required
·Motor encoder replacement needed
·Oscilloscope diagnostics show complex signal issues
·Multiple axes affected simultaneously
Prevention
Regular encoder cable inspection during PM
Maintain proper coolant sealing
Keep encoder cables separated from power cables
Monitor for EMI sources in facility
Common Mistakes
Swapping encoder cables between axes without parameter changes